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syrux
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 2:47 pm    Post subject: Backroll - Help Please :) Reply with quote

Hey,

I've been trying to do backrolls lately.. because I was getting frustrated trying the helicoptor handle-pass 360's either landing on a nice rotation without the rope.. or landing with like a 280 degree with the rope and bailing, I can either get the rotation or the handle.. can't do both (damn small brain!)

Anyways, I would like some help on the backroll.. I can get about 3-quarters around with the handle. but just can't get enough air/rotation to get the last bit.. the wake isn't that big.. but have had the local pro land a backroll on it. So any help would be apperciated..

After the thrid or fourth time.. it starts getting painful Razz
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-Jane-
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ride to the top of the wake and throw it away from the boat more.
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syrux
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, i've just been out trying a bit more..

I'm landing with the nose in the water.. so i'm closer.. but it hurts much more Razz Embarassed

Sometimes landed face / stomach first.. the man down stairs was not too happy at all!

So I guess I should just keep trying.. I'm really suprised I can make it that far.. seen as though I can't even do a backflip on a tramp
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Little Red
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep the rope in close, real close.

The closer it is the quicker you rotate.

Try to concentrate on trying to touch your hip with the handle all the way through the move, even when landing, because otherwise you will start letting your arms out when you see the water and stop rotating.

This is what I found anyway.
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syrux
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, cool thanks for that Smile I will try that this afternoon.. no doubt I will end up getting wasted again Very Happy but thats where most of the fun is Razz heh
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-Jane-
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HOLD ON TO THE ROPE!
lol thats were i screw up every time.... Sad
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syrux
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do hold onto the rope.. I just let go after I hit the water and mangle my leg Razz got this big bruise now Sad i land with the nose in the water
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember a comp in December where Jane tried her first backroll, off the double-up, held onto the handle and did one and a half rotations before crashing!!! Biggest back roll I've seen in ages..... best viewed from the boat of course...
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yer college games were fun Smile

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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2005 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey man, perhaps you should try a Tantrum first.. This flip is easier i feel as you don not have as much chance of rotating off axis.. Sometimes with the heelside backroll, if that is what you are attempting, if you rotate slightly off axis, the spin becomes low and very fast!!!! That is when this trick can become very painful and a possible chance of blaowing a knee. The Tantrum is a lot slower and the bails are painless!!
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syrux
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey so how do you do a tantrum? like whats the steps
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey man, cut out nice and wide.... Set into your edge approaching the wake, cutting fairly hard... Dont have to go all out.. As you feel your board begin to slide up the wake, transfer your weight to your toeside edge. Simultaneously, let go with your rear hand and open your shoulders upto shore. Push off the wake with your legs to get the necessary pop that you need to clear the opp wake. Tilt your head back looking straight up. This will take your tantrum nice and high to ensure you are "layed up" when you do it. Spot your landing on the other side and stick it!!
Piece of cake bro..
Good luck!!! Let me know how you go.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damb that sounds easy
tried it .... now in hospital .... just kidding
I land on my back or maybe feet then rotate (fall) onto my back Very Happy , let the handle out I guess to stop the rotation
even funnier when I tried it on a skate Laughing Laughing Laughing
I can't ride Wink , I'll stick to building boards
gotta try and stick a back roll thing, no one will see me in winter
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a tip that helped me when learning a backroll a few years ago...

Edge out wide, then just cruze in nice and slow, you almost dont even want to be edging at all and the boat will pull you back toward the wake.
As you get close to the wake you want to put on a nice hard edge and increase it as your going up the wake, this will put a bit of load on the line. off the top of the wake you want to edge away from the boat and the release off the top of the wake. This "load and release" technique will rotate the backroll for you and make it alot easier to get back onto the board. remember to keep the handle close to your hips and you should be landing it in no time.

Let me know how you go, or if you are confused at this technique.

Brad

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

just to add a tip to that back roll explanation, to keep the handle in nice and close the best thing to think about is trying to pin your elbows in to your sides!!
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